Episode 23

October 31, 2025

00:33:19

I Dare You To Walk in My Shoes w/ Lori Tatarsky

I Dare You To Walk in My Shoes w/ Lori Tatarsky
The Vital Women of Washington Heights
I Dare You To Walk in My Shoes w/ Lori Tatarsky

Oct 31 2025 | 00:33:19

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Show Notes

On this week's episode, we speak with Lori Eve Tatarsky, author of the book I Dare You To Walk in My Shoes. Lori Tatarsky is an author, speaker, and mental health advocate from New York. With 15 years of experience in advertising and freelance writing, she has also worked as an account executive for several companies. In 2022, Lori published I Dare You To Walk in My Shoes to share her mental health journey and inspire hope and positivity. Recently, she has become a companion to individuals with intellectual disabilities and the elderly, embodying her philosophy of living and giving.

Lori Tatarsky and MHA https://mhadutchess.org/tatarsky/

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"The Vital Women of Washington Heights Living in Dutchess County" is brought to you by MHA of Dutchess County and Produced by CMJW Entertainment.

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Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Vital Women of Washington Heights
  • (00:01:27) - Tribute to Diane Keaton
  • (00:02:06) - The 100th Birthday Tribute to Jane Seymour
  • (00:03:24) - Bipolar 2
  • (00:09:01) - Seeking Your Core
  • (00:09:54) - "We're all one"
  • (00:12:01) - How Do You Feel About Your Religion?
  • (00:14:32) - Marisa Keaton on Her Food Addiction
  • (00:17:46) - Mental Health Care Workshops
  • (00:23:14) - What kind of mental health professionals should you seek help from?
  • (00:24:40) - The One Message in My Book
  • (00:27:12) - Creating Your Boundaries
  • (00:27:28) - Boundaries in Relationships
  • (00:31:33) - The Power of Prayers
  • (00:31:45) - A message for the listeners
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Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Speaker A: This podcast is brought to you by MHA of Dutchess county and produced by CMJW Entertainment. This episode of the Vital Women of Washington Heights is proudly sponsored by Levia Med Spa. [00:00:12] Speaker B: You're listening to the Vital women of Washington Heights. [00:00:19] Speaker C: Hello, everyone. I am Iris Douglas, and joining me is my co host, Yvette o'. Sullivan. [00:00:24] Speaker D: Hello, everybody. [00:00:25] Speaker C: We are I and I, and with us today, we are so happy to have you. Trust me. [00:00:30] Speaker D: Thank you. [00:00:31] Speaker C: Joining us is Lori Eve. And I don't want to mispronounce your last name, so help me with it. [00:00:35] Speaker B: Tatarski. And you wouldn't be the first person, and I'm sure not the last, but. [00:00:40] Speaker C: I do not want to mispronounce your name. [00:00:42] Speaker D: Names are important. [00:00:42] Speaker E: Yes, absolutely. [00:00:45] Speaker C: So, Lori, you are the author of I dare you to walk in my shoes. Amazing. We're so happy to have you here. [00:00:52] Speaker B: Thank you. You're welcome. [00:00:53] Speaker C: You're very welcome. [00:00:54] Speaker E: I feel honored. [00:00:55] Speaker D: We have been working for a while there, getting together and getting to know each other. So we're extremely excited that you're here with us today. [00:01:03] Speaker E: Yes, yes. And every chance I get to have a voice and to continue on my journey and to work towards my mission. [00:01:12] Speaker B: Of helping people and healing people from the depths of pain and different things I've experienced is a moment in time to encapsulate. [00:01:22] Speaker C: I appreciate that. You show up. You show up. You show up with your voice. Thank you. [00:01:27] Speaker D: Well, that's why we're here today. And instead of doing the pachincha that I normally do that is related to Dominican Republic, today we're going to do a tribute to Diane Keaton because we see her as a very inspiring woman. She was very empowering to. To women. And we see you being very much like her with your fashion sense, with your humor, the way that you express yourself. So here we. [00:01:56] Speaker E: Worked up. [00:01:56] Speaker C: You're a trailblazer. [00:01:58] Speaker D: You are a trailblazer just like Diane. [00:02:01] Speaker E: So I think I'm just a blazer. [00:02:04] Speaker C: You're good. You're Tripp. [00:02:06] Speaker D: So here we are. Iris is wearing her hat, and Lori's wearing a hat, too. And I have a tie on to just honor a woman that I felt that she left us too soon. [00:02:16] Speaker E: Yes, I felt it as well. And so millions of people are feeling the same way. It's very sad. But, you know, I say it in my book. A lot of incredible souls that leave quite the mark on our society and our world leave too soon. However, if one leaves too soon and they touch hearts and souls and are impactful, then if Somebody lives to the right age of 100, but, you know, hasn't been able to achieve that, you know, so it's really about perspective. But of course, she'll be terribly missed, and she will be remembered for all the beauty that she was. [00:02:54] Speaker D: Absolutely. [00:02:55] Speaker C: She was definitely a woman of empowerment. I felt that all her movies, she was always like me, were always very inspirational. Especially the last one that I saw, this Something's Got to Give with Jack. Remember? That was fun. She was sexy. [00:03:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:08] Speaker C: She had her own house. She was like spaghetti. [00:03:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:11] Speaker E: The thing I. The thing I really liked about her, when she was able to get in. [00:03:17] Speaker B: Touch with so many different sides of the human experience. [00:03:21] Speaker C: Absolutely. Yeah. I love that. [00:03:23] Speaker D: I love that. Absolutely. So here we are to learn more about you, and we would like to start out by you telling us what inspired you to write your beautiful book. [00:03:34] Speaker E: Well, I've gone through a very difficult time, and I think each individual, when they come into this world, for me at least, I never expected this because I felt my childhood was from a vantage point, had a lot of opportunities, love privileges, a lot of joy, a lot of stability. And then at some point, my father, that was very much my role model, became tragically ill and passed on my 17th birthday. And things started to unravel. And basically I had. I had gone off to college. I was still able to do that. And I was at a party on break with a bunch of friends, and. [00:04:35] Speaker B: I made a poor choice. But I think as we grow up. [00:04:38] Speaker E: We become wiser and our choices become better. And I ingested a tab of acid. [00:04:46] Speaker B: And I wasn't really one to dabble with drugs, you know, of course, you know, back then, I did alcohol and whatnot and cigarettes, but never hardcore drugs. [00:04:57] Speaker E: But I did ingest the tab of acid. [00:05:00] Speaker B: And by the grace of God, you know, at the time, I was in Pikesville, Maryland, which I talk about my book. I drove home at erratic speeds, 120mph. [00:05:11] Speaker E: In already very fast sports car. And I was hallucinating. And it certainly was a trip, as they say, you know, an acid trip. Very much just Odyssey. And when I got home, I fell. [00:05:28] Speaker B: Into a deep depression. [00:05:30] Speaker E: At that particular juncture, I was taken to a mental health facility and diagnosed as having bipolar type one. [00:05:38] Speaker B: Now, there's two types of bipolar. There's not three types. [00:05:42] Speaker E: Which would be tripolar, because I wouldn't suggest you tripolar. It's a very difficult, enduring disease. So bipolar type 1, generally speaking, comes with some type of altered state of mind. So with me, I used to get these terrible episodes, as they call it, where I would think, as I look at it, because of my spirituality, the devil was possessing me and, you know. [00:06:12] Speaker B: Putting negative, dark thoughts into my mind. So it was this very scary place to be. Yes. [00:06:21] Speaker E: So basically I felt that so many people, I never thought this was going to be my reality because of the backbone I had in childhood. [00:06:32] Speaker D: You had a strong foundation in your childhood. [00:06:34] Speaker E: Right. So I am. You know, I thought I would continue on, but in many ways, as I'm growing spiritually and other. In other capacities, I'm realizing just as I believe each of our names are. [00:06:47] Speaker B: In the book of life, I believe each of us has almost a predestiny. [00:06:52] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:06:53] Speaker E: So this was meant to be part of my life journey. And I feel like, because with so much strength from spirituality and so much love in my life at this part of my life and some such a strong support, I've been working towards balance and been in remission, I call it, for going on five years. [00:07:14] Speaker D: Well, congratulations on your final year. [00:07:17] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. I get, like, goosebumps almost. Yeah. [00:07:20] Speaker E: So big deal. I'm able to be out there and be able to be a voice of reason, resilience and respect for others that at this point are suffering or that can't have a voice of their own. So many things like that inspired me to tell my truth, because with mental health challenges and addiction and with many other things that people endure, there's a stigma attached. [00:07:46] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. [00:07:48] Speaker D: Well, thank you for being that voice and being a woman to inspire other people, not just women, but men as well, and for sharing your journey of pain that brought you to have the purpose that you have today. [00:08:02] Speaker E: Right. And I think a friend of mine at a very dear friend's memorial that she was very dear friend of mine. And it's going on three years that she's passed. Friend was at the memorial and she was one of us giving a eulogy. [00:08:19] Speaker B: And she had lost her son, her young son, to cancer. And she said on the podium that. [00:08:27] Speaker E: Without pain there is no growth. [00:08:29] Speaker C: That's right. [00:08:30] Speaker E: That. [00:08:31] Speaker D: That's so true. It's hard when you're going through pain, but sometimes that experience leads you to a better place in life. But when we're going through that pain, we don't realize that sometimes the light is beyond that pain. [00:08:44] Speaker E: Of course. And I don't want to take away from the enormous amount when you are back into that beacon of light, God willing, the enormous amount of peace. You know, they say it surpasses all understanding. It truly does. And the amount of joy one can feel. [00:09:01] Speaker D: Yes. [00:09:01] Speaker E: How did you find. [00:09:02] Speaker C: How did you find your core, your center? How did you come back to this is not me. I want to change. What. What changed? [00:09:10] Speaker E: Well, I've always been a firm believer. [00:09:12] Speaker B: In personal development growth. You know, I've always been involved in different conferences and workshops doing the. [00:09:23] Speaker E: I. I also, I've also had a. [00:09:24] Speaker B: Lot of mentors and teachers, and I've been very blessed. [00:09:27] Speaker E: My life is. My life has been truly blessed. You know, I didn't always think that way because when I was in the depths of depression or is in the. [00:09:35] Speaker B: Recklessness of mania or I was 300 pounds, you know, I didn't always. [00:09:40] Speaker E: I couldn't always see how many blessings I had. [00:09:44] Speaker B: But now I truly do, and I'm willing to show up a hundred percent. And I know God, who's very important in my life, will show up 150%. [00:09:54] Speaker C: I love that you said that we talked a little bit about self awareness. You want to talk a little bit about how you feel about that? Because I think that's a big thing for you. [00:10:04] Speaker E: You know, as human beings. It's our imperfections that make us perfect. [00:10:08] Speaker D: Yes. [00:10:10] Speaker E: I have this kind of play on a little silly, but we all have floors. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Some have marble, some have, you know, some have vinyl. [00:10:19] Speaker E: But overall, we all have many flaws. [00:10:21] Speaker D: And I love that analogy. It's very visual and I'm into, you know, having the actual visual and analogy. [00:10:27] Speaker E: So sometimes we have to make it. [00:10:28] Speaker B: Silly to actually understand so much of. [00:10:30] Speaker E: What'S so deep and core of our core. So as far as working on things, I just think I always wanted to be a better person. And I'm grateful to what I believe in. I grew up Jewish and we went to temple and my brother got bar mitzvahed. And a lot of my friends where. [00:10:55] Speaker B: I grew up back then, there wasn't as much diversity and in communities, which. [00:11:01] Speaker E: I think is kind of sad. You know, I like it better that, you know, I'm able to have all different types of friends now, all different ethnicities and cultures and everything. It makes life more fascinating. [00:11:12] Speaker D: Absolutely. And that's the beauty of life, getting to know different cultures and different people. So definitely these are better times. I feel. [00:11:21] Speaker B: Right. [00:11:21] Speaker E: I feel that as well. And I feel ultimately it's. We're all one, you know, we're all looking for the light. We're all hoping to reach the light. We're hoping to be as one. [00:11:29] Speaker D: Yes. [00:11:30] Speaker E: You know, and yesterday, I just want. [00:11:31] Speaker B: To mention, was a triumphant historical day when they brought the hostages. [00:11:36] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:11:37] Speaker D: Yes. [00:11:37] Speaker E: So mentioning from. From Israel. [00:11:39] Speaker D: Yes. [00:11:40] Speaker E: And, you know, I don't want to, you know, not to get into it, but not in so many words, but in the Bible it says that Israel will become united again and all that. [00:11:51] Speaker D: Absolutely. [00:11:51] Speaker E: You know, so I think we're in. [00:11:53] Speaker B: Times where, you know, people are looking to become one unified. [00:11:58] Speaker C: I think people are looking for more spirituality. Absolutely. How do you feel about spirituality? I know you're Jewish and I know you wanted. You wanted to kind of elaborate on that. [00:12:07] Speaker E: Well, you know, as I went on my journey and, you know, I dealt. [00:12:15] Speaker B: With the bipolar, the hardship of the mental disease. I call it dis ease or disorder. [00:12:23] Speaker E: Because there's so much chaos when you're dealing with an illness. [00:12:26] Speaker D: Yes. [00:12:29] Speaker E: You know, I. I was becoming more drawn to Jesus because of this exemplary. [00:12:37] Speaker B: Life full of love and, you know. [00:12:40] Speaker E: Giving and healing and the beautiful things I heard about him and, you know, read about his life, and I felt very drawn. And for many of those that don't know, because so many people, and I think in our lives, you know, when. [00:13:00] Speaker B: You don't have that awareness, self awareness, awareness of, you know, education, what's going on, or awareness of others, it really works against you. [00:13:11] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:13:12] Speaker E: You know, so, you know, Jesus was ultimately born a Jew. [00:13:16] Speaker D: Yes. [00:13:16] Speaker E: And he was a very pristine Jew. He was a rabbi. [00:13:22] Speaker B: For reasons such he started Christianity. But I'm what you call a messianic Jew. And I always say this, it sounds kind of silly again, but a massive Jew. [00:13:34] Speaker E: You know, some people think, you know, how can you be Jewish but believe. [00:13:37] Speaker B: In Jesus as the Messiah? [00:13:39] Speaker C: That's your flow. Right. [00:13:40] Speaker E: But that's what I'm doing, and I'm sticking with it. [00:13:42] Speaker D: Absolutely. And it's a great decision that you have made personally for yourself, because we're all individual. And how we decide to honor our religion or spirituality, it's a very personal choice. [00:13:55] Speaker E: Right. [00:13:55] Speaker D: And based on our own experiences. [00:13:57] Speaker E: And once again, what our choices are in life, we shouldn't be judged. [00:14:04] Speaker B: We shouldn't be stigmatized. [00:14:06] Speaker E: That's why I really feel the name. [00:14:08] Speaker B: Of my book came to me through a higher being. [00:14:12] Speaker E: I dare you to walk in my shoes. Like, please don't judge me till you have walked in my shoes. And at that point, don't judge me even more because of what I've been through. [00:14:22] Speaker B: And I'm not only a survivor, but because of love. I'm a thriver. [00:14:28] Speaker E: That's very good. [00:14:29] Speaker D: I love that message. [00:14:30] Speaker C: Survivor and thriver. [00:14:32] Speaker D: So I want to talk A little bit about your addiction with food. Is that related to being bipolar? Because I recently learned also to Diane Keaton was bulimic, which I didn't know. And there was a point in my life in my teens that I was bulimic as well. And it all came about from, you know, having this image that you have to have a certain body type or you have to look a certain way. Yes. And I had to work very hard on myself when it came to changing that mindset and that image and do a lot of therapy. Yeah. So I know what that battle looks like. What did that battle look like for you? [00:15:15] Speaker E: It was probably one of the most harrowing things I've had to experience. You know, so many people think if you have a food addiction, it's not difficult because you're not, you know, you're not per se, heavily addicted to maybe substance use or. But addiction is powerful, and people don't choose addiction. It chooses them because of things they've experienced. [00:15:42] Speaker D: Absolutely. [00:15:42] Speaker B: And trauma they've gone through. [00:15:44] Speaker D: And. [00:15:44] Speaker E: And these are ways they cultivate to. [00:15:48] Speaker B: Cope and get through the trauma, when. [00:15:51] Speaker E: I truly believe that one must somehow face their trauma if they're to get back to a place of recovery. So the food started with me. I remember it as clear as day. When I was about 10 years old, I would. In the middle of the night, and I still do this. I eat in the middle of the night. You know, I would sneak in my refrigerator and I would start eating what food was in there. Also, as a teenager, the same thing. I grew up in a somewhat affluent neighborhood. It was somewhat competitive. [00:16:28] Speaker B: I felt I had to look a certain way. [00:16:31] Speaker E: And, you know, I also had an extremely. Who is still extremely, incredibly beautiful mother inside and out. And I felt I had to keep up with that. So as far as my food addiction, finally, I surrendered it in the last couple of years, and I'm not binging anymore. I'm not throwing up. When I was younger, I did resort to the bulimia. I'm not compulsive. [00:17:03] Speaker B: Overeating. [00:17:05] Speaker E: By the grace of God, I'm not 300 pounds. I had gotten up to 300 pounds about 23 years ago. That was, you know, that was the beginning of the bipolar. Not the very beginning, but I was still trying to navigate through it. [00:17:19] Speaker B: I didn't really understand it, you know. [00:17:23] Speaker E: So it's been exhausting. [00:17:25] Speaker C: You've been through a lot. You've been through a lot. Well, good for you. Look where you're at. Look where you're here. You're you're, you're, you know, you've done a lot. [00:17:33] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:17:34] Speaker C: You're welcome. [00:17:34] Speaker B: Thank you so much. [00:17:35] Speaker C: I'm so happy you're here to. [00:17:36] Speaker E: Well, I'm amongst you. [00:17:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:38] Speaker D: Thank you. [00:17:40] Speaker C: You're a wonderful woman because your story is going to motivate other people, inspire other people. If she could do it, I could do it, too. [00:17:46] Speaker E: I mean. [00:17:46] Speaker C: And you have some workshops going up that we want to talk about. [00:17:48] Speaker D: The workshops. [00:17:50] Speaker C: Are you comfortable talking about the workshop that you want to create? Let's talk about that. Because more people know. It's better, you know, it's better for them. [00:17:56] Speaker E: Yeah, that'd be great. Well, I tell. On a lot of the podcasts I'm involved in, there's been a particular person in my journey that's been very much a mentor to me and very much. [00:18:09] Speaker B: One of my angels. [00:18:12] Speaker E: I believe, you know, everybody has angels around them. You know, I really, truly believe that I'm very big into angels and they. [00:18:19] Speaker B: Show up precisely at the right time. [00:18:22] Speaker E: You know, whether it be from afar or near. And I moved up to Dutchess county, where we presently are. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Next August will be five years. It wasn't a good time. [00:18:35] Speaker E: My life, it was one of the. The most hardest times in my life. I just gotten out of a terrible. [00:18:43] Speaker B: Episode with depression and mania. [00:18:47] Speaker E: I had had a horrendous car wreck. [00:18:52] Speaker B: Hit into a bridge, the Tappan Zee Bridge, which is a major bridge. [00:18:59] Speaker D: And. [00:19:00] Speaker B: I had wrecked my car. I had hit a guardrail. I had hit a police car, and here I am. [00:19:09] Speaker E: Here you are. [00:19:10] Speaker D: Because you have a purpose. It has a purpose for you. And you're working on that purpose, right? By being that voice, certainly. [00:19:17] Speaker E: And, you know, basically I had ended. [00:19:21] Speaker B: Up up here because my family, my mom had relocated from Bayside, Queens to Kingston, which is only about 45 minutes from here, and my brother had lived there for a long time with his wife. And I. Because of the car accident, I was put into a mental health facility in Westchester. [00:19:43] Speaker E: And it was terrible. [00:19:45] Speaker B: After they wouldn't take my insurance anymore, I was still not well, but it was time to go because unfortunately, our. [00:19:51] Speaker E: System needs a lot of reform. And they said, you know, you'll need to leave now. [00:19:57] Speaker B: And I didn't have anywhere to live at the time because I had just gotten out of a four and a half year relationship with my. My boyfriend and my mom couldn't take me in at that time. And. [00:20:09] Speaker E: They basically put me in a. [00:20:10] Speaker B: Cab and dropped me at a homeless shelter in the Bronx. [00:20:16] Speaker E: And I had never really been to the Bronx, you know, not even to. [00:20:22] Speaker B: Watch a ball game at, you know, for the Yankees. [00:20:25] Speaker E: And so terrifying. And once again, by the grace of God, I had some money in the. [00:20:32] Speaker B: Bank and it cost me $350. But I took a cab to my mother in Kingston and I was so out of it because I still wasn't well. I was like very detached. [00:20:42] Speaker E: I was in a despairing depression and. [00:20:46] Speaker B: I just showed up at her door. And then one thing led to another and I ended up in a hospital in Dutchess County. [00:20:54] Speaker C: Wow. [00:20:56] Speaker D: But mothers are very important. Look at that. You know, like when we're in so much pain, the one person that we always think about or go to is our mother. Because they are our foundation. [00:21:05] Speaker E: They really are. [00:21:06] Speaker D: So you're very fortunate that after having such a negative experience, you have the need to, to go looking for your mother. And because of that need, here you are in Duchess county doing all the great work that you're doing. Right. [00:21:18] Speaker E: And I had issues. It's amazing how things have intrinsically unfolded. [00:21:26] Speaker B: Since I've been up here. [00:21:28] Speaker E: When I first came to Dutchess county, after the experience in the particular hospital they have here, which had its pros. [00:21:38] Speaker B: And cons, it's not a very nice facility, but I was very blessed because. [00:21:43] Speaker E: The staff were very loving towards me. But it did leave some drama, you know, I do have to admit that. But somebody told me I was on, I'm on this committee and there was this man in 911 and he said, I had a lot of post traumatic stress, but I've turned it into post traumatic growth. [00:22:01] Speaker D: Wow. This is the first time I'm hearing that. But I love that. [00:22:05] Speaker C: Changing it out, making it better no matter what. Positive. [00:22:09] Speaker E: Right. [00:22:09] Speaker B: So kind of like, you know, faith over fear. [00:22:12] Speaker D: Yes, absolutely. [00:22:14] Speaker E: So as far as being up here, they put me in a facility. [00:22:19] Speaker B: It was kind of like an assisted living when I left the hospital because I didn't have anywhere to live. And the place sounded grand. [00:22:26] Speaker E: You know, it sounded like five star Hotel Crystal House. You know, it was decadent and everything. And it was, it was a very sad reality. There are a lot of people there. [00:22:36] Speaker B: That would sit around all day in a gazebo, not do much of anything but smoke marijuana because it's legal now in New York. [00:22:46] Speaker E: And smoke cigarettes, take cigarettes from the. [00:22:50] Speaker B: Ground, from the garbage, take food out of the garbage. [00:22:53] Speaker E: And it was a very difficult place to be. [00:22:57] Speaker C: You were uncomfortable there? [00:22:59] Speaker E: No, actually, yes and no. I felt like every place we're put. [00:23:04] Speaker B: Is for a reason and for a Lesson and maybe to contribute in some way. You know, I still talk to this beautiful man, Joe Johnson, that I met there. [00:23:13] Speaker E: A lot of the people there were. [00:23:14] Speaker B: Very into God, were very into, you know, finding a better way, you know, so we would, you know, read from the Bible in the morning and we, you know, talk about, you know, it. [00:23:26] Speaker E: You know, once again, they were trying to deal with the hardship of their life. So they were doing things that. [00:23:32] Speaker D: Oh, habits, all behaviors. [00:23:34] Speaker C: There we go. [00:23:35] Speaker E: Okay, exactly. [00:23:35] Speaker D: That they did not know how to break. [00:23:37] Speaker E: Right, right. And unfortunately, that happens with a lot of things, but it happens a lot with people that experience some semblance of mental illness. [00:23:47] Speaker D: Yes. [00:23:47] Speaker E: Because even with me, like, I was. [00:23:48] Speaker B: Going in and out of the hospital. [00:23:50] Speaker E: Because I think it became like almost a crutch sometimes. Like, okay, this is a place I could just veg out. I don't have to deal. You know, sometimes, you know, when I was, like, having suicidal ideations and things of that nature, I certainly needed safety. I certainly needed that. But sometimes they would ask me, what do you think triggered this? And I would have no answer. I just, you know, I was in and out, in and out of the hospital. This was the pattern. I needed to break that pattern. [00:24:16] Speaker B: I needed to find better coping ways, better resources, better network of people. [00:24:23] Speaker C: Mindset. People with the right mindset for you to grow with. [00:24:26] Speaker E: Exactly. [00:24:27] Speaker B: Mind, you know. Yeah, like minded. [00:24:29] Speaker C: Yeah, like minded. [00:24:30] Speaker B: People that were looking for healing, looking to work together. People that were real, authentic. [00:24:37] Speaker C: Yeah, they really cared. Really cared. [00:24:40] Speaker D: So what would you say is the one message in your book that you want to share with the readers that perhaps when they're reading your book, may not jump out at them right away? So what is that one powerful message? [00:24:55] Speaker E: All things are possible with God, you know, and I say that. I don't mean to keep mentioning God. I don't want to push, push, push, push, push. [00:25:04] Speaker D: But that's what works for you. I mean, don't apologize. That's what has brought you to be here. Believing in him and seeing the light that he wants you to see. So that is part of your story, right? [00:25:15] Speaker E: It very much is. So, yes. [00:25:18] Speaker B: Then let me renege on my apology. [00:25:20] Speaker C: There you go. Take it back, take it back. [00:25:23] Speaker E: So what is the one message? That's such a great question. I bet. There's so many messages. You know, when I've done other podcasts, I've explained that my book isn't all about hardship. There's, you know, tremendous amount of exhilaration. There's tremendous amount of humor. [00:25:43] Speaker D: Yes. [00:25:44] Speaker C: Poetry. Poetry. [00:25:45] Speaker E: Poetry. There's, you know, a lot of poetry, a lot of narratives and parables, as we call them, and ultimately, never give up on your dream, no matter how grandiose, and always work towards finding your dream. And so you get lost in the dust. So find your fairy dust. [00:26:07] Speaker C: There you go. [00:26:07] Speaker D: I like that. Can we hold up her book? Because. Yeah, we mentioned fairy dust. I love the COVID of the book. [00:26:14] Speaker E: We've updated a little bit. I did want to say that. [00:26:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:16] Speaker E: So this is the first edition, but, yeah, it's beautiful. [00:26:19] Speaker C: It's got a really beautiful. [00:26:21] Speaker D: Good. [00:26:22] Speaker C: It's got a beautiful coloring and everything. I love the colors. [00:26:25] Speaker D: And speaking of fairy dust, I. The little sprinkles coming down when you said that reminds me of the fairy godmother. [00:26:34] Speaker E: And. [00:26:34] Speaker D: And you're right. You know, we need to find that purpose and what will drive us to that purpose and not give up on our dreams, no matter how big or small. [00:26:44] Speaker E: I think so many people, because of everything that's been so difficult in our world, have lost sight of that. Yes. [00:26:53] Speaker B: Have lost sight of their purpose or don't know where to begin to find a purpose. [00:26:58] Speaker C: A lot going on, girl. There's a lot going on in our universe, you know, and a lot of people are feeling it. A lot of sensitive people. I feel like you're a sensitive. You know, you feel things extremely. Yeah. And it's hard sometimes. [00:27:08] Speaker E: Works against me, and it works for me. [00:27:09] Speaker C: I know. I know. It's just grounding. You got to keep yourself grounding. One of the things that Yvette and I, we. We share an experience on Saturday is creating also boundaries. [00:27:17] Speaker D: Yes. [00:27:17] Speaker C: You have to create. I knew you were gonna like that word. [00:27:21] Speaker E: I knew you said I had to work on them or said to people. I've worked on them. And now it's my time to tell you my boundaries. [00:27:28] Speaker C: Boundaries, Right. [00:27:28] Speaker E: Because you give and then so important in lasting relationships. I don't. Whether it be business, whether it be. [00:27:36] Speaker B: Family, whether it be, you know, friends, whether it be anything, boundaries are somewhat the anchor of all relationships. [00:27:45] Speaker E: I love that and respect, mutual respect. [00:27:48] Speaker D: And I feel that that has been lost. Respect. You know, sometimes I just stay kind of frozen. There are times that I go to different places, but even respecting somebody, to me, is holding the door open for them and not just walking through a door and realizing that there's somebody behind you, but you just let the door slam in that person's face. Saying, thank you, good morning. Doesn't take much to acknowledge people, and to me, that's respect. [00:28:11] Speaker C: Yeah, but even you know what I think it is, sometimes people are not aware they're in their heads, they're not being mindful. It's like awareness. You talked about, we talked about awareness, self awareness. If people don't, you know, they're not be mindful of what you're doing to others, you know, they're not, they're in their heads, they're not, you know, focused. [00:28:27] Speaker B: I just think a lot of times. [00:28:28] Speaker E: Also, sometimes I think it's intentional, but a lot of times when people do, you know. But I think, just like Iris said, I think people's minds are just racing, so. [00:28:38] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:28:39] Speaker B: And we live in such a fast paced. [00:28:41] Speaker E: Too fast too, you know, to, to. [00:28:44] Speaker B: Really enjoy the moments that are cherishable, you know. [00:28:47] Speaker E: And I remember for many, many years. [00:28:48] Speaker B: I was in the advertising industry. I talked about and I had a. [00:28:53] Speaker E: Very fast paced life. [00:28:54] Speaker B: And I would say I was a mover and a shaker and I would say a shaker, meaning I had so much anxiety that my life was like. [00:29:03] Speaker C: You know, you just kept moving so you won't feel the anxiety. Right. You kept moving. Sometimes people do that, but that's a mistake. As you said earlier, sometimes we have to feel that and release it. You have to feel what you're going through and then release it. [00:29:14] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:29:15] Speaker D: How do you slow that down? What do you do in the mornings when you wake up? There's something that you share with me every day that I love and I'm very grateful for receiving. [00:29:22] Speaker C: She's been sharing it with me too. [00:29:24] Speaker D: That guidance every morning. [00:29:26] Speaker E: I do a couple of things in the morning when I wake up. First of all, I thank God that I woke up. Absolutely. [00:29:35] Speaker D: It's a gift. [00:29:36] Speaker E: Another day, another day. [00:29:37] Speaker D: Every day is a gift. [00:29:38] Speaker E: The royal kingdom, as you say, the magic kingdom. [00:29:41] Speaker C: That's right. It's paradise. [00:29:42] Speaker E: Right? That's so funny. [00:29:44] Speaker B: My, my dear, dear friend, my sister, I call her, says every morning when she's going to Manhattan and dealing with. [00:29:49] Speaker E: That rat race, she goes, another day in paradise, Another day in paradise. So it's funny you should say that. What would I do? So I'm grateful. I woke up. I go to the gym. I start the day with prayers. I start the day with movement, whether it be movement of my spirit, movement. [00:30:09] Speaker B: Of my mind, movement of my body. [00:30:11] Speaker E: I think they're all collaborating. [00:30:12] Speaker D: Absolutely. [00:30:13] Speaker E: And that's what I really have changed in my life and come to really believe in and want to follow this. [00:30:19] Speaker B: Particular doctrine that especially for the maintenance. [00:30:24] Speaker E: And balance of my disease, spirituality, physicality and mental. You know, working towards mental balance is all important. So I go to the gym, I do the devotionals, I send out to a slew of people, and I just. I carry on with my day in hopes that it will be another positive day. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Each day is not glorious, but it's an opportunity. And that's all. All you can ask for. [00:30:51] Speaker C: Well, you're making it better just by saying a prayer. Just by waking up in the morning and saying, thank God I'm here, and saying a prayer and surrendering to whatever happens. [00:30:59] Speaker E: Prayer show power. Absolutely down that. [00:31:01] Speaker D: And it brings that balance for you to start your day with set intentions. [00:31:05] Speaker B: Right. [00:31:06] Speaker D: Of following that peace and that light, no matter how crazy the day may turn out to be. But at least you have given yourself that tool. I can handle this. I can be strong. [00:31:14] Speaker E: And it also gives you that sense that's so important that, you know, we're supposed to be so connected in our society. We have the cell phone, we have social media, we have this, we have that. We have, you know, this device and that device. But yet, truly, I feel like we're more disconnected. [00:31:30] Speaker C: Absolutely. Because we're too busy on our phones, girl. Computers. We're not in our. We're not getting in. We're not going in. We're not meditating, we're not praying, we're not going in. And we're not connecting, you know, to. To God like that because we're too busy. [00:31:41] Speaker E: That's why the prayer is so important. Feel that connection. [00:31:45] Speaker D: Is that your final thought? We're coming to the conclusion of our show. What would you like to leave the audience with. [00:31:53] Speaker E: So much? What would I like to leave the audience with? That each day is an opportunity to. [00:32:02] Speaker B: Be, to live, to give, to love, and to take in the peacefulness of the doves. [00:32:12] Speaker C: I love that. [00:32:13] Speaker D: Thank you. Thank you for that. Once again, we want to show your book, I dare you to walk in. [00:32:17] Speaker E: My Shoes on Amazon right now. And it's going to be available globally soon. And it's also available on Mental Health of America of Dutchess county website. Absolutely. [00:32:32] Speaker D: And with that being said, we want to thank our main sponsor, Andrew o'. Grady. Without you, we wouldn't be here. [00:32:38] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:32:39] Speaker D: Yes. [00:32:39] Speaker E: Andrew. [00:32:41] Speaker D: Speaking of angels. [00:32:42] Speaker B: Yes. [00:32:44] Speaker E: Certainly an angel. [00:32:44] Speaker C: Yes. [00:32:45] Speaker D: And we want to thank our producer, Connor Wallace, and thank you to our audience for taking the time to listen to us and participate. Yeah. [00:32:55] Speaker C: Thank you so much, Lori. We appreciate you, girl. [00:32:57] Speaker D: Yes, Lori. [00:32:58] Speaker E: Thank you so much, ladies. [00:32:59] Speaker C: You're very welcome. You're very welcome. [00:33:02] Speaker A: This podcast is brought to you by MHA of Dutchess county and produced by CMJW Entertainment. Thank you once again to this episode's sponsor, Levia medspa.

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